We create many chances but our conversion rate is so poor it is becoming frustrating.

Several times this season we could have slaughtered our opponents, yet we took only one point.

Too bad that we dropped two points today. Again.

There were some reports a couple of days ago that Benfica's president was in England and that we have practically closed the deal for their 20yr old winger Gonzalo Guedes, who shared the same agent as Mourinho.

I was pleased when I saw this, as he is a player that I've noticed some time ago and even wrote about him here, imo an excellent player and even bigger potential.

However, today there are news that Mourinho is not interested in buying him and that the player is going to PSG.

It would be a pity to miss out on this player, as we don't have a winger like this, despite Mourinho claiming we are overbooked in wing position. Our problem is that we have lots of players that might play on the wing, but they are not really wingers (Mata, Miki, Rooney, Rashford, even Martial is better as a striker imo).

Moreover, I've gotta say that I don't like the treatment Martial and Shaw are getting, as I feel they deserve to be our starters. I can just hope that it's Jose's way of getting maximum out of them, but I'm not sure it is. I can understand that Rashford is being played gradually as he's just a kid and we have Zlatan as a striker, but it's hard for me to accept that Martial is not finding enough space neither as a striker nor as a winger. Same goes for Shaw, who has become practically our 3rd choice left back, behind Darmian, Blind, even behind Rojo sometimes.

Also Fosu-Mensah is not getting enough minutes, he's hardly played a game lately.

Dunno, I hope Mourinho knows exactly what he's doing and I have faith in him, but at the moment my feelings are as described above - I don't like the treatment some players are getting (that includes recently sold Memphis Depay and Morgan Schneiderlin).

We'll see what the future will bring and I just hope Mourinho is preparing Shaw and Martial like he did with Mkhitaryan, in order to launch them at the right moment (even though it's not exactly the same, as Miki is a new arrival in EPL, while Martial and Shaw were here earlier).

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/2...lems/)

The injury count has been way too high for a long time at United.

I guess we'll see whether this is just a bit of luck that we've had fewer injuries but Jose's sides have always had fewer injuries and that was something that I thought he'd improve. Hopefully this continues.

Can't disagree with that. Under Mour's it always has been better injury prone for players but...

Meanwhile if there wouldn't be those injuries we wouldn't have discovered Rashford, Fosu-Mensah, Lingaard and many others. What I really dislike in Mourinho is that he isn't giving almost any chances for the younger ones. And it seems to me that nothing has changed despite (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/p....html). Nothing has changed at all! Even Martial, Rashford, Fosu-Mensah and others who where shining before is barely getting a chance to shine. And that's the main reason why I'm dissgusted with Mourinho. Well, if he would be leading the League and most the competitions he's taking a part in, maybe then my thoughts would change but at the moment.. OK. Our game has improved a bit but.. Even with Mour we are still 6th in the league, we are not doing great in the EL.. And if it costs to lose some of our younger talent's fcuk Mourinho.. Never liked him and unfortunately it seems that he will never change my mind..

Our game has improved a little bit? What are you on? :)

Our game has improved a lot this season. Last season we had one of the worst attacks in the league, now we have one of the best attacks. Defensively we're similar to last season.

I think that bringing through young players is the thing that will make or break Jose in the longer run. Because if he doesn't, then he'll need to have successful transfers every season. And that's unlikely to happen. He'll get many of them right but not all.

Right now I don't think it's right to criticize him for not playing the young players yet. He needs the team to gel and play his way. After that he can start changing things match to match when we're up against weaker sides etc.

I hope that next season we'll see more young players getting a chance. I don't expect that much this season and I think that perhaps it's the right thing to do as well.

Another reason why I think Jose is not rotating is that he wants to win something this season at all costs to make sure he gets more time as the manager. The top four is far from certain and it makes sense to put out a good team in the cups as well. If he gets us a cup or two and we play good football(which we are playing), then he knows he will have another summer to improve the squad and mount a serious challenge for the title. You can easily understand how this works for the managers - Moyes concentrated on the long term from the first day and didn't last a year. Perhaps he would've grown into the job.. I think Jose has seen that and decided that he'll have to do do what it takes to win something and/or play significantly better football. And he chose not to put all his eggs in the 'play better' basket and that means fewer games for someone like Fosu-Mensah. Or Tuanzebe.

Still - he's trusted Lingard a lot and uses Martial and Rashford basically every week. And Pogba and Bailly are young as well..


In other news - Liverpool are out of the cup, yay!

chuksi wrote:

Still - he's trusted Lingard a lot and uses Martial and Rashford basically every week. And Pogba and Bailly are young as well..

Just curious- wasn't the Martial and Rashford our best players last season? I bet if the fans wouldn't love them- Mours wouldn't play them at all..

About this:

Our game has improved a lot this season. Last season we had one of the worst attacks in the league, now we have one of the best attacks. Defensively we're similar to last season.

Can you tell me what has improved? Last season we were 5th at the end of the season, now we are 6th at the moment. What has improved?? Yes, VG was playing somwhere boring football and was controling most of the games in the season. Now we are giving away the ball as we can. Most of the games we are actually domintaing- at the end we manage to lose points. When we are giving the game away Mourinho style- we are getting the points. Everyone was echstatic when heard Morinho is gonna come to MU.. To be honest- last aprox last 25 years I never doubtef my love to football and my love to MU. Now.. I really don't know and not because I have lost my love to football..

When someone said about fergie: you can't win anything with youngsters- after the season everyone laughed. At the moment some people is saying that you can't win anything with pensioneers- and I'm giggling about that because it seems right..


P.S. Bailly is the only surprise fro me how Mourinho managed to hit me out of my pants. For that- well done mister Jose!

In other news - Liverpool are out of the cup, yay!

I was hoping they would win, as I wanted to meet them again as soon as possible.

They are incredibly lucky this season and they were especially lucky against us at Old Trafford, as they got the lucky break with that penalty. We should have battered them as we are a better team, but unfortunately the result didn't show it because we missed so many good chances...

Can you tell me what has improved? Last season we were 5th at the end of the season, now we are 6th at the moment. What has improved?? Yes, VG was playing somwhere boring football and was controling most of the games in the season. Now we are giving away the ball as we can. Most of the games we are actually domintaing- at the end we manage to lose points. When we are giving the game away Mourinho style- we are getting the points.

Attack.

We actually attack during the 90 minutes of football. Not just pass and hope for the other team to get bored and fall asleep and let us score.

That has improved about as much as it can improve.

Last season we were fifth during a season which was perhaps the lowest level of PL in a long long time. No top team played well and Leicester! won the league. And we were 15 points behind Leicester! Unbelievable really.

This season we're in the mix for the top four(the current position IMO doesn't show too much, the table is quite close) and the teams around us are all a lot better.

I just have to comment on the bold part as well - no, we weren't controlling the games. We had possession but most of our opponents let us have the ball in non-dangerous areas and didn't care about it. This is not controlling the game. Control for me is when you do what you want. Both defensively and offensively. That when you do need to score goals, you can go and create chances. And when you want to avoid conceding, then you don't concede chances to opponents.

What Van Gaal did was just create low-scoring games and branded that as 'controlling'.

I'm happy that they're out. I want the trophy as surely as possible, because I think that might relax Jose somewhat and remove the need to prove anything. The first few months he clearly overdid it by overreacting to referees and whatnot. It felt like he wasn't in control. I think he is calmer now just like Fergie said the other day in an interview.

But I think that trophy would help the team in many ways. Creating that winning habit etc.

Against Liverpool I think it would be a feisty game. We could win it and we could lose it. We saw the derby match - neither will give the other any room and such games can always go either way.

They are incredibly lucky this season and they were especially lucky against us at Old Trafford, as they got the lucky break with that penalty. We should have battered them as we are a better team, but unfortunately the result didn't show it because we missed so many good chances...

I don't think that penalty was lucky. Pogba had already let his man go two times before that incident. He was just not doing his job well during corners and paid for it. I also don't think we created that many more chances than them. Both teams had chances and it was a pretty even game overall. Perhaps we had slightly better chances but a draw was the right result.

Fcuk it all.. To be honest- I can't deny that I was hoping BIG when Mourinho came. I did knew his weaknesses (which made me very carefull) I did knew his strenghts but I was worrying about one thing. He ussaully (WRONG- always) brings silververware back home at the very first season he's at the job- every single time he has started a new job he has finished at the top of the table. But last couple seasons showed that he's approach to the game is wrong when calculated out well. Unfortunately- Mourinho is a past- maybe not of his personality or aproach to the yellow pages but. He's just not good enough to be United especially when you consider usual strenghtss of Red Devils. He wants a new era. Zlatan does want it as well. Zlatan is much, much more like it to get it tahn Mourinho is.

He ussaully (WRONG- always) brings silververware back home at the very first season he's at the job- every single time he has started a new job he has finished at the top of the table.

Actually just three out of five he's done that. At Porto, Chelsea the first time and Inter. At Real and his second spell at Chelsea he didn't win the league. At Real he won Copa del Rey and at Chelsea he didn't win anything.

So.. saying he always wins the league is a bit over the top. If you also think about sample sizes, then five is a very small sample and from that you can't really say how he's going to do in this first season.

During the second season he's always won the league though.

But last couple seasons showed that he's approach to the game is wrong when calculated out well. Unfortunately- Mourinho is a past- maybe not of his personality or aproach to the yellow pages but. He's just not good enough to be United especially when you consider usual strenghtss of Red Devils. He wants a new era. Zlatan does want it as well. Zlatan is much, much more like it to get it tahn Mourinho is.

It's nice how people create narratives based on a few facts to suit the way they want to see things. Clearly something happened at Chelsea that destroyed the team last season. More or less the same players are crushing the league right now and even though it might have been a lucky coincidence that the team clicked with Conte really well I think it's more likely that the players are just playing at their normal level instead of how they did last season. We don't know what happened there.

What you're writing makes little sense to me. Jose is the past and not good enough. How is it that the manager who is past it has coached his team well enough that they haven't lost a game for two and a half months(that's 17 games). When was the last time something like that happened at United? Probably around 10 years ago. And he's been at the club for only about 6 months. The start of the season was rocky and we have had our share of poor luck of not converting our chances but recently we've played very good football. During the run of 17 unbeaten games there have been perhaps two or three where the football wasn't enjoyable or we didn't dominate(and by that I mean create chances and deny opponents chances, not possess the ball).

The point where he has to prove himself will come in the future. So far he's done exactly what you'd expect. He's made watching football possible again for the United fans. Right now thinking that we'll be in the top four at the end of the season isn't hopeful/wishful thinking but more like expectation.

All in all - I don't agree with you :).

Just read me through carefully through my lines- I wasn't saying that he has won aevery league title from his first season but he has taken silverware on any oh he's first seasons- either league, national cup or european cup..

So sorry- it seems there is no use to argue one with each ohter- it's jsut not ''We'reUnitedForever""I can see an absolutely different dominance over the Europe than Mourinho does, Different oppinions- doesn't really matters..

But I think that trophy would help the team in many ways. Creating that winning habit etc.

Winning the League Cup might help José on short term, but he knows well it's a small trophy and doesn't really mean much. Of course, it's nice to win a trophy but in Mourinho's head it won't change almost anything, as his ambitions are much bigger. I agree on creating the winning habit, though, it's important psychologically, more for the players than for Mourinho.

Against Liverpool I think it would be a feisty game. We could win it and we could lose it. We saw the derby match - neither will give the other any room and such games can always go either way.

Well, it will be the final and I am not sure we will have it easier against Southampton.

Liverpool are a strong team, but somewhat overrated imo. They were playing exciting, attacking football this season, but a bit chaotic imo and they were also lucky on several occasions. Anyway, I don't want to think about them too much, I just wanted us to play against them soon and do what we somehow missed to do in our last match.

I don't think that penalty was lucky. Pogba had already let his man go two times before that incident. He was just not doing his job well during corners and paid for it.

Yes, he did struggle to get out of the block (Rojo also blocked him involuntarily) and missed to follow Lovren well, but the way in which the ball hit his arm was unlucky for us and a very lucky break for Liverpool. Before that, it was just a question of moment when United would score the first goal.

I also don't think we created that many more chances than them. Both teams had chances and it was a pretty even game overall. Perhaps we had slightly better chances but a draw was the right result.

I counted the chances and it was 4-1 for United in the 1st half and 2-2 in the 2nd half (not counting some of half-chances).

PSG bought Guedes, for £21mil.

(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/art...=1490)

After Draxler, Guedes is their second January arrival and I think they did an excellent job.

Of course, time will tell.

Liverpool are a strong team, but somewhat overrated imo. They were playing exciting, attacking football this season, but a bit chaotic imo and they were also lucky on several occasions. Anyway, I don't want to think about them too much, I just wanted us to play against them soon and do what we somehow missed to do in our last match.

I think that's the thing - they're good when they're up for it but not so good when the game isn't a big one. And they'll always be up for it against us. I think that would be an unpredictable game.

Besides - they were soundly beaten by Southampton, not managing to score over 180 minutes..

Yes, he did struggle to get out of the block (Rojo also blocked him involuntarily) and missed to follow Lovren well, but the way in which the ball hit his arm was unlucky for us and a very lucky break for Liverpool. Before that, it was just a question of moment when United would score the first goal.

But that's the plan for Liverpool when they line up like that - to make sure that someone gets blocked off. Someone always does get blocked off.

I don't think it's luck when three corners out of three he loses his man and once gets punished for it. He was just poor at marking. He has been poor at marking on corners all season actually if you hadn't noticed.

Does anyone know a good site for football streamings?

It seems that livefootballol has been shut down and the only useful site I know now is CR7 streaming.

Is there any site where I can see games with sopcast or acestream ?

Thanks in advance!

(https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/)

Has been very reliable.

I rarely stream at all, but if there's a must-watch game I cann't find via my usual channels, I go for robinwidget or something like that. When I'm on it, it says batman stream.

Work fine, quality is decent and there's no sign ups. Ad block takes care of that part for me.

I'll never learn to understand how Jones gets a justified yellow card in that situation.

The attacking player had a plethora of options to go in a direction that wasn't into Jones, if he had any balance at all and didn't just stumble around with the ball. When looking at tackles that doesn't get booked, it's a mystery to me.

I think it depends on the movement of Jones. If he moves towards the player then it's a clear yellow. If he just keeps his position then it's harsh, yes. I didn't see it well enough to judge whether he moved to block the player or not.

I was more surprised that Meyler didn't get a yellow. There was no intention of playing the ball. Just to stop the player.